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Post by jstreet on Nov 8, 2023 17:18:10 GMT
Its over guys....watch his video. 100 % scam was all along. I have never heard such a load of bull shit in my entire life. ever. No one has access to money but him and the lawyers work for him to distribute as they were a hired firm but they are blackmailing him and now will not give him the members information so he can figure something else. They work for him but wont give they data back to him, and he does not have a copy himslef. He ergot and deleted our information.
I haev any attorney family member he said this is all 1100% garbage, real business and law firm don't work like this.
SCAM!!!!! He took the donation money, and all the other money along the way. Says it months now to try and see if lawyers will give him our information back......
One thing this shows...he scared this time that some of us will lawfully do something and go the route of fraudulent donations.
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Post by fisher on Nov 8, 2023 17:34:08 GMT
After watching the video and seeing his face (and the infections of the moscito bites), I think Mike is truly desperate at the moment and... that he's telling the truth! If he doesn't, he should go directly to Hollywood and apply for a main role in a Blockbuster. Nobody can lie like this!
But I don't understand why the lawyers want to pay him to walk away. Do they want to keep all our money for themselves OR do they want to finish the program successfully for us???
And why Mike said the lawyers can delay this for as long as they want and then he said he needs a few months to fight back?
And he said that he is being forced out, then he said he can't be blackmailed or pushed out? And why should the lawyers give him all the data (back?) he wants from them?
Like nearly always, the updates leave more questions than answers.
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Post by jstreet on Nov 8, 2023 18:03:08 GMT
Sorry real world businesses and Law firms don't work this way they would have their licenses taken from the This is all a scam. I don't care what his face looks like or his health card to drum sympathy. This IS NOT THE WAY THE WAY REAL LIFE BROKERAGE FIRMS LAW FIRMS BEHAVE!! My family member said THIS IS A SCAM!! no attorney would make side deal to keep money they were hired to distribute to clients ...but them Mike says only he has access, see the double speak and lies.
Those of us that have professional jobs and above average IQs know this is not true.
Its a pitty pod story for the gullible to drag out another 6 months then he hopes most will forget about it and not try to seek law enforcment for the fraud donations.
Career criminals are smart they are profession scammers and it a psychological game.
I am like Jaba The Hut the Jedi mind tricks don't work on me. But hes not a Jedi he with the dark side of the force.
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Post by retired on Nov 8, 2023 18:22:04 GMT
"But I don't understand why the lawyers want to pay him to walk away. Do they want to keep all our money for themselves OR do they want to finish the program successfully for us??"
I think that is a critical issue here, if any of this story is true.
This video was utterly depressing, and its message to me is not believable. I wish he had taken his money and ran. I think we would then have a better chance of trying to recoup whatever money we put into this program. At this point, I would settle for that. Forget any kind of payout.
Since he needs medical assistance and hospitalization, why would he turn the money down? Is he stalling for time?
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Post by jstreet on Nov 8, 2023 18:30:27 GMT
It really hard to believe that any of you think this is real and there is "money " somewhere.
This was a scam from day 1.
I am embarrassed 22 years ago I fell for this.
No ne will ever ever see 1 penny form this. ts a scam.
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Post by dolphan on Nov 8, 2023 20:11:44 GMT
The guy is a joke. He films is a video in his boxers and a 20 year old vneck tshirt. All that video does is set him up to show his infected legs and some sob story so the admin can come back and say ‘hey you see how bad Mike is suffering and he really needs money for medical treatment’.
Any one that sends him a dime is a complete idiot. I’m sorry but this guy deserves what he has coming to him for all he has done to people. Like someone said, no legit law firm is going to or allow a client to get blackmailed. They also are not going to hold on to millions of dollars from a client and take off with it.
This is it and if you still have hope you are a fool. I’m sorry.
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Post by punipa16 on Nov 9, 2023 13:12:48 GMT
on the one hand, i don't trust businesses in this world to not be as corrupt as the individual people running them.
but his 'infection' and 'hospitalization' and the turning down of money seeks to make me more suspicious than empathetic. you ain't getting anywhere with shifty delays my buddy, bites or no bites
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2023 16:07:26 GMT
Its painful but let's face it. This is a scam and everything is lie. Seems like he is already back in Indonesia. Everything he said is a lie. He is leading us into his new story in case you did not get the hint. He said, if he dies, everything will be gone and then he talked about his infections and medical conditions. So his next move is to ask for money to pay for medical bills. If we don't pay, he might die and we will lose everything. He rejected millions or billions of dollars for us.
If anything he says is true, then it is time for him to expose the lawyers, partners and all involved parties. He can't fight alone. The 16,000 E65 members will have a much bigger impact than him alone. But he claims that he can't disclose anything because everything is a lie.
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Post by jstreet on Nov 9, 2023 19:10:15 GMT
Think about the elaborate scheme and a mind that would make fake telegrams well thought scripts about lawyers ..get your ID ready.... I mean this is scary. This is a career criminal. It is his full time job to think of every detail to pull off the scam and look legit. psychopath ( and for 22 years)
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Post by fisher on Nov 9, 2023 22:02:42 GMT
I still don't understand why the lawyers want to pay him to walk away. Do they want to keep all our money for themselves OR do they want to finish the program successfully for us???
And why Mike said the lawyers can delay this for as long as they want and then he said he needs a few months to fight back?
And he said that he is being forced out, then he said he can't be blackmailed or pushed out? And why should the lawyers give him all the data (back?) he wants from them?
Another question: Does anyone know if Mike is still in contact with Jeff Gordon?
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Post by dolphan on Nov 9, 2023 22:30:50 GMT
Fisher, all do respect.
There are no lawyers, there is no money. There is no blackmail. There is no forcing out.
It’s Mike’s lie, it’s Mike’s story he made up in his head. He used us, he played us and we believed and many will still believe.
It’s not real. It’s over. It’s not real.
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Post by jstreet on Nov 10, 2023 19:28:41 GMT
right. there is no money in any accounts, no lawyers , no grams, no investments. It was all made up to funnel the scam to us. The only money is the money we sent to him for donations and fake programs. Please email everyone you know in the program. we have to get the word out He will try come back later asking for donations and gullible people will think the program is real and send more donations.
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