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Post by fisher on May 24, 2023 23:39:59 GMT
I'm a bit confused. May be one of you can help me?
How many and which 'groups' exist?
Ok, the first group of 7 people should be the 2 admins and 5 people more who help Mike (his staff).
But then: Is 'Bullion Investors' the same group like the 'Grams' group?
If yes, are they the same group like an 'ExFoundation Member'?
And is the 'Traded Gold' group the same group like the 'E65 - Gold' group?
How I see it, FIRST group to be paid is these 7 people (staff).
SECOND group to be paid is the Bullion/Grams/ Exfoundation people.
THIRD group to be paid is the Gold people.
LAST group to be paid is the normal E65 people.
Sorry that I 'm so confused, but in nearly every 2nd update they give the groups different names.
Last question: Admin G said there are 15.851 active members and that 4.032 members completed the Google forms.
Do you think that only THESE 4.032 members are the contactable members they talked about?
I mean, how I see it, this means that at the end - NOW - there are only 4.032 active members.
OR are more people out of the 15.851 contactable and just not all of them (only 4.032) completed the Google forms?
Sorry for all these 'stupid' questions but Admins and Mike confused me so much.
Thank you in advance!
Cheers, fisher.
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Post by retired on May 26, 2023 2:48:04 GMT
"How I see it, FIRST group to be paid is these 7 people (staff).
SECOND group to be paid is the Bullion/Grams/ Exfoundation people.
THIRD group to be paid is the Gold people.
LAST group to be paid is the normal E65 people."
I think you're correct about this being the order for payouts. And according to the informative FAQs in the last update, within the E65 group some members will get prioritized over others: those who provided financial assistance; those who completed the video KYC; and those who completed the Google forms.
The attorneys will most likely deal with the 15,000+ members who have dropped emails or who are otherwise untraceable after everybody else gets their payouts.
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Post by fisher on May 26, 2023 4:39:36 GMT
retired, thanks a lot! 😊
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Post by retired on Jun 11, 2023 18:40:23 GMT
According to the new update of June 11, the payout process will be: Mike's advance payment, the A-listers, the Grams clients, the other gold programs, and then finally the regular E65 members. I assume the Ex-Foundation members are part of the five gold programs?
This update sounds so positive. I hope for the best, but I believe I should prepare for the worst. As mentioned in another post, the worst is that it becomes a long, drawn-out process when they get to the E65 members, even though the update stated that should not happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 7:46:42 GMT
You almost got it correct, unfortunately the ExFdtn group are just part of the main E65 group now, no additional benefits to being in that group now!
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Post by fisher on Jun 13, 2023 23:10:06 GMT
Also to me this update sounds positive.
But I'm irritated because in the Updates from May 17th and May 25th it was said that the people who donated to GFM get paid after Mike is FULLY paid.
Now, in June 11th Update, Mike said the GFM people get paid in the 1st phase (together with the Grams people).
As we all know, there are 270 Grams people.
But how many persons donated to the 3 GFM's???
I think there was hundreds of them and many of them were people with small money (not like the 270 Grams people).
In my opinion many of them are 'normal' people (no big investors), so if THEY really also get paid in the 1st phase, I see a bigger chance for all of us to hear something about it. 🤗
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Post by retired on Jun 15, 2023 21:56:43 GMT
Also to me this update sounds positive. But I'm irritated because in the Updates from May 17th and May 25th it was said that the people who donated to GFM get paid after Mike is FULLY paid. Now, in June 11th Update, Mike said the GFM people get paid in the 1st phase (together with the Grams people). As we all know, there are 270 Grams people. But how many persons donated to the 3 GFM's??? I think there was hundreds of them and many of them were people with small money (not like the 270 Grams people). In my opinion many of them are 'normal' people (no big investors), so if THEY really also get paid in the 1st phase, I see a bigger chance for all of us to hear something about it. 🤗 That point is confusing in the updates. At first I interpreted the updates as stating that those individuals who donated to the GFM campaign will get priority over other E65 members. But could it also mean that those who donated to the GFM will get their 100:1 payout right away, but not necessarily their E65 payout? |
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Post by fisher on Jun 15, 2023 23:47:09 GMT
Also to me this update sounds positive. But I'm irritated because in the Updates from May 17th and May 25th it was said that the people who donated to GFM get paid after Mike is FULLY paid. Now, in June 11th Update, Mike said the GFM people get paid in the 1st phase (together with the Grams people). As we all know, there are 270 Grams people. But how many persons donated to the 3 GFM's??? I think there was hundreds of them and many of them were people with small money (not like the 270 Grams people). In my opinion many of them are 'normal' people (no big investors), so if THEY really also get paid in the 1st phase, I see a bigger chance for all of us to hear something about it. 🤗 That point is confusing in the updates. At first I interpreted the updates as stating that those individuals who donated to the GFM campaign will get priority over other E65 members. But could it also mean that those who donated to the GFM will get their 100:1 payout right away, but not necessarily their E65 payout? Another interesting thought... I think the GFM-people will 'only' get the 100:1 because the lawyers don't want to and won't 'touch' the normal E65 funds before the 1st phase is finished. The GFM-people will be told that the money they made with the 100:1 should help them to wait for the E65 payouts. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 16, 2023 10:34:23 GMT
This is my understanding from Mike's telegram messages and FAQ - There will be a small advance payment to Mike from the 5 gold programs (This does not include the E65 Traded Gold or E65).
- A-Listers (7 of them in Indonesia) will be paid first from the advance payment. Mike will return home.
- The rest of the payout for the 5 gold programs will be paid fully to all clients including Mike.
- Mike will pay the 100:1 payout to the GFM donors from the 5 gold programs' payout.
- Lawyers will start processing the payout for the E65 and E65 Traded Gold simultaneously.
- Priority will be given to GFM donors and Ex-Foundation members. Mike will receive his full E65 payout.
- The rest of the members will be paid. PLA will be paid at this point. The order of payment is not clear.
I still stand firm on what I said before. No matter how positive the updates seems, until I know personally someone who have received any money from Grams or GFM payout, or at least contacted by the law firm, there is nothing to celebrate. Till then, these are made up stories by Mike. This is not the first time Mike updated that the payout is about to happen and followed by asking for more money. This time instead of directly asking for money, he is promoting his BTCI program where he will indirectly receive money from the members. So let's see. |
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Post by dunno on Jun 20, 2023 17:24:06 GMT
Ok so what can one say about todays update,, this is now taken all the way. End of the road. So lets see if all GFM people myself included get those 100/1 , But given i am hard to convince after all these years.
Just a end to it all would be Nice,, longest scam ever or the craziest story that will get it on the news. Still leaning towards the first heavily.
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Post by fisher on Jun 20, 2023 20:18:34 GMT
Please keep us updated when/if you get paid. Thank you!
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Post by retired on Jun 22, 2023 4:32:58 GMT
Please keep us updated when/if you get paid. Thank you! I also donated a small sum to GFM (really small compared to the high rollers), and I certainly will let everybody know if I get contacted by a Canadian law firm. I am sure we cannot reveal a lot of details. Given the nature of the program, that it deals with money, taxes, and banking documentation, I think sending correspondence via email is too informal. But snail mail is much slower and can get lost. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2023 8:18:21 GMT
There are legitimate legal methods of electronically dealing with sensitive business material that is secure and safe. I do not believe that there will be any snail mail involved if there is any contact by a legal firm
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2023 14:41:58 GMT
Yes, everything can be done securely online nowadays. When was the last time you visit a bank? I can even opened a bank or trading account online without stepping into a bank at all. Platforms which Mike mentioned before like DocuSign and securfact.ca for KYC allows such transactions to be completed securely. Mike already mentioned that moving forward lawyers will contact us by email.
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Post by fisher on Jun 22, 2023 16:24:51 GMT
Hello, may be someone can help me out.
There were 3 GFM fundraisers.
How many people donated in all 3 together (In the 1st one there were 93 people) ?
And how much money was donated ( USD ) ?
Just asking to get an overview about how much money Mike has to pay for the
GFM-people.
Thank you.
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