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Post by punipa16 on Mar 3, 2022 7:15:26 GMT
The post seems to be reinstated, but i'll archive it anyway, i'm the archiver from the other site. yo.
i am aware of the private telegram, though my friend didn't join the livestream that i heard happened. it's definitely mike?
it's funny i was actually lookin for an alternative a few days ago and came up with 2011 results from blogspot again which just deflated my search.
i'm not in the telegram myself, i'm simply reporting for and from a friend. Same friend as the one bogor's slain in emails for bein a blondy against his wishes. I'm not too fond of jorgen's methods.
neat new forum, expect me to start payin attention. Though of course I would be wary of spam bots and any sort of stuff on here. I'll archive probably if there's enough content to start with
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Post by punipa16 on Mar 3, 2022 10:54:48 GMT
Oh no I'm perfectly doubtful of Jorgen and his claims. I've made it perfectly clear in private messages to fisher and other places i do not think Jorgen's a saint. my friend's even taken to calling him 'bogus' since a lot of the claims are either so old or never followed up on. Did ya know that the initial prompt before he lashed out at my friend in the emails was simply the prompt that because he claims Jeff is working with Mike on this 'scam' that therefore there 'is' a team (albeit of 2 people but nonetheless)? I wouldn't think it would've warranted such a heated response if the guy was fully right in the head about his claims, never mind the other fishy stuff going on on that forum and the website, especially with the evidence that i've got, albeit small, of said scam emails and telegram channels.
and I agree as well that I definitely think Mike is suspicious too, but there was no weighing to the contrary on that kinda thing. All I've got is the friend who's in there because they're a member and a bunch of results that're almost old enough to make accounts on the web if they were people. I definitely feel that while this whole thing has some suspicion, there's been way too much smearing from one end of this whole ordeal. So I'm actually really glad and I'll keep up.
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Post by punipa16 on Mar 3, 2022 12:29:25 GMT
The only other thing I have on this group is my friend had a bunch of screen-caps relevant to their old vsb profile on the website when that was still up. Apparently my friend's login details down to the name, 'MID' and ID were present when they joined the group, used a relative's email to get in. Conversation sadly got deleted, but all the information lined up with the screen-caps from roughly 4 years ago used to sign in to the website (which said website was started 11 years ago roughly, profile must've been made before that point).
The conversation was with the 'Admin' who only referred to themself as that, so I'm wavering on the fence if the idea was the admin is a separate person or mike under a different name, i'm leaning toward the former.
What I'm saying is there seems to be some plausible reason to believe there's something with this group if all the information from a deleted website is still up and kicking where no other source existed before y'know?
Again, unfortunately don't have screen-caps but I also don't necessarily wanna blow their chances by mentioning exactly who it is I'm talking about if there IS a chance it's legit, which there's a possibility of happening since i heard about this
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Post by 20yre65 on Mar 9, 2022 23:06:57 GMT
What is the turnaround time after the form is submitted to receive the telegram channel info?
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Post by 20yre65 on Mar 10, 2022 0:16:16 GMT
Hmmm. Received Google Form Reply but not link for channels. Was 48 hours ago. Also, thanks for quick reply fisher.
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Post by punipa16 on Mar 10, 2022 8:31:17 GMT
If you're talking about the new email being sent out, my friend sent theirs back. Of course they were already in the telegram, the form was to update certain details like email address that were incorrect. Curious if that'll be recognized since they talked with the admin for a brief moment when they got the join link already.
Seems like the message had to be edited, it was originally sent to the channel 14 hours before its actual posted time, with some revisions once it actually got posted. Like the PDF thing, that wasn't in the first version of the message.
Better hope this all means something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 13:03:53 GMT
Has anyone hear not submitted a CA back in 2009
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 10:25:03 GMT
I read that too, I also purchased additional policies for my family members after the CA cut off point and nothing was said, I also have genealogy reports for all of them that were available from the old VSB site. These reports show my family as being registered with the original policies and the additional ones, so I am not quite sure where we all stand. I might add that this is all on the proviso that this program actually reaches a successful conclusion.
With regards to the current membership status there is less than 1000 that have registered on the channels. Not sure how they are going to get in touch with the other 15,000
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Post by punipa16 on Mar 15, 2022 15:10:53 GMT
Not to mention let's not forget the smear campaign online and that's assuming it hasn't been forgotten by many due to it being so long.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 9:20:49 GMT
I am of the same opinion. However I would say that I have recently been able to communicate with the admin team who were very helpful in assisting me with my query, something that has not been possible for over 5 years. Please don't get me wrong the fact that there has been some two way communication does not mean that the program is going to provide a positive completion, but it is one more step forward
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Post by punipa16 on Mar 17, 2022 4:02:50 GMT
I'd like to know too, my friend's only communication with the admin 'team' is what I mentioned earlier when they joined and they ended up talking with someone called 'admin' presumably someone from the team, but the whole conversation got deleted and the only record that it happened is a chat dump mentioning the 'admin' as a contact (but only that). and the whole reason for the conversation was that they joined through family email and were getting checked to make sure they were actually a member.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 11:30:52 GMT
Hello cramer. Wow, how did you manage to communicate with the Admin Team? Is there a secret email or did I miss something? Thank you. Hello Fisher unfortunately I have been asked not to make it public. They did say that they will go public with the email when the time is right. Hang in there mate. Cheers
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