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Post by dolphan on Dec 22, 2022 19:43:38 GMT
Unfortunately, nothing comes back and if they have anything they will not release it. I will be filing an appeal, if anyone has any ideas let me know. Re: Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552 Request No. 23-00-FOIA Dear Mr.: This letter responds to your request, dated and received in this office on December 15, 2022, seeking investigative records concerning “Mike Poulos”. We can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any records responsive to your request. Even to acknowledge the existence of such records could interfere with the personal privacy protections provided by FOIA Exemptions 6 and/or (7)(C), 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(6) and (7)(C). Further, if such records were to exist, they may also be exempt from disclosure pursuant to these exemptions. Under Exemption 6 the release of this type of information would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. Under Exemption 7(C) release of such information could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. By outlining the provisions of these exemptions, we do not mean to imply in any way that records responsive to your request exist. Please note that final actions taken based on SEC investigations, including administrative proceedings, disciplinary actions and civil complaints are publicly available at www.sec.gov/litigation.shtml. You have the right to appeal this response to the SEC’s General Counsel under 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(6), 17 CFR § 200.80(f)(1). The appeal must be received within ninety (90) calendar days of the date of this decision. Your appeal must be in writing, clearly marked "Freedom of Information Act Appeal," and should identify the requested records. The appeal may include facts and authorities you consider appropriate. You may file your appeal by completing the online Appeal form located at www.sec.gov/forms/request_appeal
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Post by LDH on Dec 23, 2022 4:36:26 GMT
I know we have all run out of patience but to do this would put the whole program in jeopardy. There are many of us who believe this program will eventually come off. Why would Mike be away from his family this long for nothing. If you go down this road Dolphan, you will put us all at risk. You don't have the right to ruin this program for us all. We are so close to closure on this and you go and throw us to the wolves again. Don't do this..please.. lets wait and see what happens in the new year.
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Post by bobby on Dec 23, 2022 5:38:59 GMT
Why would it? The SEC has had their chance to investigate this so called funds with the lawyers allready according to Mike. So why should there be a problem just asking to see what is on file. Either it is legit or there is no records of any of this at the SEC and that would prove it once and for all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 7:15:13 GMT
Why would it? The SEC has had their chance to investigate this so called funds with the lawyers allready according to Mike. So why should there be a problem just asking to see what is on file. Either it is legit or there is no records of any of this at the SEC and that would prove it once and for all. Bobby and Dolphin I am as frustrated as you all are with the delays, miscommunication, and contradicted information that has been provided in the past, as you all know I have also been a strong advocate for more transparency from Mike and the Admin team, but I don't think that making contact with any of the US authorities is the right move, we all know that the US authorities can be some of the worst in the world when there is something that they are not familiar with, they automatically flag it for further review, if you think that 23 years is a long time for the program to come to completion think how long it will be before ANY closure is possible either way after the US authorities get there teeth into it. I agree with one of our new members in that lets see what the new year brings before any rash actions are undertaken, after 23 years I would find it hard to believe that there would be a jurisdiction anywhere in the world that would have the time or patience to prosecute Mike or anyone who may have assisted in action that may be deemed illegal. Not to mention that they statute of limitation would more than likely have expired. As Mike has stated the law firm have advised him that they are not worried about the current complaint of fraud so if any action is taken that does not involve the current issues I think we would be chasing rainbows.
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Post by dolphan on Dec 23, 2022 14:14:37 GMT
You don’t have the right to tell me not to pursue information that is rightfully mine. We have all fed into Mikes greed and desperation.
To me this is not real, I will not tell anyone not to believe or have faith in Mike that he will bring you millions in riches. But seriously think about it…Mike is sitting on billions, do the math of his promises to everyone…BILLIONS of dollars to pay us out?? We all believe Mike has the money that the largest corporations in the world make in revenue?? Mike is feeding of all of us and our desperation to be well off, to not have to worry. As I struggle to make ends meet, to make my 6yo holiday a good one, in a blink of an eye Mike was give 2 years salary for doing nothing but making promises.
Think about it:
The facilitator- was never heard from, never a name attached. The facilitator of the program is no longer involved and long gone with ‘money from insurance policy in our names’.
The 10k policy- an insurance policy was taken out in my name, yet never did I see a document or policy confirming a policy in my name.
Foundations- I purchased a foundation. Never have I received anything regarding a foundation. The foundation was not part of the payout but a way for me to put my payout into. I should have been able to access this on my own since I purchased it, yet never received anything regarding it.
Debit cards- paid for and received 1 that eventually meant nothing.
Numerous PLA for Mike- contributed previously to help Mike with promises of extra money. Never an agreement sent to confirm those terms.
Key policies- policy’s I purchased of people deceased or people who realized the program was a fraud long before I did. This was probably the only ‘proof’ of a purchase I saw bc I was able to log into vsb and see these.
Helen, the team, lawyers- so many hands on this project yet never a way to connect with them with questions, concerns, etc and when you were able to email with questions, all you received were threats of being removed from the program.
Again, some one took an insurance policy in my name and was able to trade it on an open market and made money 20 years ago of my name. Yet all I wanted was a measly 10k. Now I am looking at 25 million dollars from a man who is a known fraud, with many failed business ventures to pay me out.
I want to believe, I want you to believe. My kid believes a man in a red suit will magically appear at my house and leave her gifts. We all want to believe, but we need to cut Mike off until he gives us proof or pays us.
I won’t pursue Mike further as you asked, I ask that you no longer send Mike anymore money. I guarantee you, once Mike realizes we will no longer fund his life, he will disappear and we will all realize what fools we were to believe. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by retired on Dec 23, 2022 18:25:04 GMT
Everybody has made some very good points and arguments.
I don't believe making the inquiry was wrong. This is similar to checking out a business or contractor on the Better Business Bureau or Trustpilot web sites before doing business with them. Maybe the inquiry should have been on the company, E65, and not on Mike as an individual.
I agree maybe it would be wise to see what happens next year. If an appeal next year is justified, the arguments Dolphan made are sound and legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2022 4:24:37 GMT
I think we are all of the same mind in the cense that there has been very little information from Mike or the Admin team that can confirm or deny the legitimacy of E65. As retired says we all have very valid arguments to dispute the legitimacy of E65.
Every point that Dolphin has raised is a question that I have asked myself but there is one question that keeps me involved in this program and that is the question of WHY!
Why does Mike persist with the program that would, on face value appear to be a fraud? Why does Mike continue to spin these comments that for 23 years have not proved to come to anything at all? Why continue a program that, if fake is having such a tremendous toll on his family? What does he hope to achieve from perpetuating a fake program. This is not like Bernie Madoff who ran a Ponzi scheme for 20 years, E65 is not a Ponzi and until recently did not involve any securities. ( Hence the now involvement of the SEC)
We can all speculate as to why Mike is doing what he is doing but the fact is he has not made millions out of this program despite what some may say and he will not make millions from the members, even the group that have just sunk thousands into this latest GFM will eventually come to terms with this if the program continues to fail to complete.
I, like many speculated with the purchase of additional policies when they were offered but I did not invest anything that I was not prepared to loose, anyone who has gone down that track and did not enter this program with open eyes I have very little sympathy for. The fact is we all joined this program knowing that there were no guarantees of a successful completion and, lets face it people this is so far from being a legitimate investment, to moan and whine about not getting paid is quite frankly laughable. It just shows me what greed can do to people
I know you will all have your own opinions on this and you are all entitled to them, as am I.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 1:10:25 GMT
Hello,
Dolphan please keep us updated on the SEC appeal.
High time for us to know whether this is all true or just a scam.
We all need closure !
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Post by dolphan on Jan 4, 2023 12:03:40 GMT
I agree we all need closure, but I am going to hold off on the appeal for the time being. I know some people have hope Mike will come through and I don’t want to be the one to crush the hopes and dreams this is real and will payout. When I have enough support from people, I will pursue it more through the sec and irs agencies.
Actually Mike, when you read this….you can end all this speculation of the SEC and IRS by providing us with a redacted letter from then SEC and IRS showing the request for information and fines. It’s a simple request and shouldn’t be difficult to do if it really happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 13:58:37 GMT
I agree we all need closure, but I am going to hold off on the appeal for the time being. I know some people have hope Mike will come through and I don’t want to be the one to crush the hopes and dreams this is real and will payout. When I have enough support from people, I will pursue it more through the sec and irs agencies. Actually Mike, when you read this….you can end all this speculation of the SEC and IRS by providing us with a redacted letter from then SEC and IRS showing the request for information and fines. It’s a simple request and shouldn’t be difficult to do if it really happened. I understand your point, But if E65 is real, no you won't destroy it by an appeal, will you ? Your appeal would only confirm that the case is real, and that MIKE is telling the truth and is working it out with the SEC or IRS. If your appeal results in the SEC confirming that they never have a case involving MIKE, it does not mean that you crush E65 as it never existed and MIKE has been telling us bullshit, and you would actually save us tons of time and energy as we find out the truth and can stop wasting our lives waiting for MIKE's "updates" for the next ten to twenty more years. My point is, an appeal could only help us get closer to the truth, and it won't change facts (if E65 exists, then it exists. If it never existed, then it will never exist) But again, I understand your point. How about we give MIKE time until March 2023 , when he will be in Canada for two years, and by when I'm pretty sure he would make a "big decision" like flying home without payout happening. I think when that happens, all of our tunes would be different than today's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2023 13:40:40 GMT
I agree we all need closure, but I am going to hold off on the appeal for the time being. I know some people have hope Mike will come through and I don’t want to be the one to crush the hopes and dreams this is real and will payout. When I have enough support from people, I will pursue it more through the sec and irs agencies. Actually Mike, when you read this….you can end all this speculation of the SEC and IRS by providing us with a redacted letter from then SEC and IRS showing the request for information and fines. It’s a simple request and shouldn’t be difficult to do if it really happened. Hmm.. My man, you could have solved this once and for all for all of us! Will you reconsider ? I gotta admit, I will be scared too to find out the truth after waiting since 2000. But sooner or later we need to find out the real truth.
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